NQ Colored Dead Bodies

[Baker]

[taniwha]

If I remember correctly, the original GL skin code sucked donkey's balls. It was incorrect (as you've stated), and, I believe, uploading every frame. The custom skin code in QW was a train-wreck of potential buffer overflows. Dead bodies did not work reliably. I put a lot of effort into getting it "right" in QF back in 2000, with a few rewrites since.

I can say that, while "ugly" (tastes will vary), using color maps sure was nice for QF's current GLSL implementation

[r00k]

Hmm, been a while but, i thought that deadbodies having no color was just a .qc bug. I know you can fix this via quakec... but its been awhile ill have to backtrack this comment
Other than that I thought .colormap was just the player number (like in the output of the status command), which always confused me.

[Baker]

[Spike]

its purely an engine issue.
if mods are in any way buggy its that they leave it active even on eyes, and heads.
quakeworld detects the player model specifically and colourmaps the player's skin image as a replacement texture for all player.mdls, breaking .skin etc.

TF uses colourmaps on lots of things, including with skingroups, software quakeworld supports colourmaps AND player skins.

[Baker]

[Spike]

server sends stuffcmds to change player colours. spies mess up the scoreboard too, but then quakeworld also has a 'team' userinfo key for damage stuff.

[r00k]

Oddly I modified a player mOdel once that had the player carrying a back pack, though i swear that when that player droPped a pack it was colored the same as the Player(I used that pants cOlor in the objects skin) I'm not home ATM so I can't check this... But this might lead to a cheat on some mods :/

[Spike]

if the mod sets .colormap on the dropped backpack then yes. but that's the same whether its vanilla winquake or a 'bugfixed' glquake port.
it might be a cheat, but its a bug when you consider that there's no way to disable it when using a winquake engine (other than fixing the bug), thus doesn't really factor in to any motivation to not fix it.

[r00k]

Nah maybe im mistaken i cant find the model;its possible i was mistaken that the actual dropped pack was colored...


Sorry Baker not to derail this thread...

[Baker]

[r00k]

I'm looking at the code from the svc_updatecolors point of view then tracking it backwards. Since i use custom skins that are colored, any translations are just for the old pallete method.
If the mod sets a corpse's .colormap to the player's colormap why cant CL_NewTranslation be called when we relink the entites? I have to unravel this idea its been a few years since i looked at the player color code.

[Baker]

[Spike]

what's with the do{}while(0); blocks without any breaks/continues? just use {} without the extra stuff if you just want the extra scope for declaring locals mid function.

what happens if I join a server and run some sort of script that changes my skin colours through each one of the 196 combinations? then change skin/model and do it all over again...

also, I see no handling for skingroups.

[Baker]