Limited "God" Mode -- Thoughts

[Baker]

In single player and coop, I'd like to hack in a "weaker god mode option" server-side that doesn't protect against

1. trigger_hurt
2. lava, slime
3. squishers

This way you can play in coop never suffering a death penalty aside from "must-die" situations like falling into lava, falling into the void or a trap meant to kill (which may have no true escape anyway).

I'm mostly talking out loud here, but what I am trying to avoid is having to make an enormous journey back to where you are if you die (which can take quite a while on some large maps).

Recording this here so I don't forget my thoughts.

[Mod side QuakeC isn't an option. I want this to work with long-dead closed source single player map releases.]

[Spirit]

In singleplayer just use savegames.

In coop I would love some sort of teleporter other players who plant for you to resume them (time penalty or something). Like town portals in Diablo.

[Hectate]

I agree with Spirit about Single-player; this is the very purpose of saved games. Perhaps an auto-save would be more convenient though.

The teleporter Spirit mentions for Coop reminds me of playing Halo with my brother - if a player died they would respawn near to the other player so they could continue together. I presume this was also forced by the extremely large levels being streamed into the engine as they were traversed - you wouldn't want to have to reload the beginning of a map while another player was later on in it.
One note about the respawn though; the dead player wouldn't respawn unless there was no longer a danger to the living player. I expect this was a "proximity to nearest enemy" check (you could run away fast enough to get the other player spawned to help you). In many respects it's just an extension of the way the Halo handles shield regeneration; if you survive an encounter you'll get it all back anyway.

[mankrip]

[frag.machine]

[Baker]

[Spike]

If you know how to activate the god cheat, you probably know the noclip cheat.
You've still not convinced me about why it might be good to encourage cheating.

Actually, what might be interesting in coop is shared health. :s

[Baker]

[mankrip]

Another option would be to edit the 'give' command to include the pentagram with an optional timeout, so the player could type "give i 20" (i for "invulnerability", or p for "pentagram") in the console to get the pentagram with a timeout of 20 seconds.

Since the pentagram times out, there's no need to make sure that the player receives damage under certain situations.

[Spike]

bind w "+forward; give i 20"

[qbism]

Hack a "rune-drop" function into the engine that can bind to a key. Each player has a rune, and will respawn at their previous rune-drop point. Anyone foolish enough to rune-drop while falling into lava deserves the resulting fate.

[gnounc]

I made a flag drop mod ...sometime last year?
Inspired by portal, halo, and diablo 2's town portal.
Proooobably dont have the code, but I doubt you'd need it, its an easy enough mod.

It was actually pretty fun to mes with.

[r00k]

impulse 255 give quad, make impulse 254 give pent.. the progs.dat will set the default duration..
edit the coop mod to spawn you at your fallen backpack, on your input. Let the player "cam" the area around their backpack,
"press fire or jump to respawn" ..

[frag.machine]

Or, just mimic the Half Life "buddha" mode: the player do receive damage normally, but it never goes below 1. And it is not fully invulnerable (trigger_hurt placed in void areas like chasms still can kill the player).
Again, something better suited to a QuakeC mod, not to be wired directly into the engine IMHO.