Ambient sounds

[frag.machine]

[frag.machine]

[frag.machine]

[r00k]

[frag.machine]

[mankrip]

I suggest adding a fallback for the engine to use the ambient water sound in the place of the slime/lava sound if the slime/lava sound file isn't found.

Also, frag.machine, dunno why you've used the names "slime1" and "lava1" instead of just "slime" and "lava".
"water1" and "wind2" have numbers, but for new files this doesn't seem necessary.

Would be nice to hunt some official ambient sounds for these in other Id games. Maybe from Q2, QIII or Doom 3.

[frag.machine]

[revelator]

Heh dunno but im thinking in terms of a parser that could change the abients based on numerical values so the idea is not exactly bad something nice might come out of it. Not quite sure how to get the environment data for say a cave so that the ambients have an Echo effect though. If someone knows how i think it might make for an interresting improvement to quake.

[mankrip]

[r00k]

maybe add an echo to the wav file using audacity since say cave1.wav would always echo?

[revelator]

Yep nothing quite as complicated but it would add some umph to it

[frag.machine]

I can't imagine a way to automatically switch to an "echo" effect; I suppose the easiest way to do that is using some kind of "trigger_environment" (or some sort of metadata added to the BSP format saying something like "if you're inside the volumetric area defined by coord1 and coord2 enviromental sounds use an echo effect". In other words, the map needs to have some "hint" about to activate the effect in the engine. Another solution would require some sort of shader support where you could hint about sound effects, and again it would be a task to the mapper to mark "echo" areas thru the use of shaders.

[revelator]

Hmm ill take a look at the bsp defines might be something we could use in them for it

[Spike]

halflife had triggers for its EAX areas...
echo regions only really apply where you have a confined space, you can send out 6 tracelines or so, but you'd need to repeat that process at least one extra time to try to avoid it leaking too badly (distant open areas should be considered closed if they're the corner of pipes or whatever) . And you'd have quite a bit of error in that, so some temporal coherance wouldn't go a miss (weighting it over about 10 seconds with some randomized angles, monte carlo style), but you perhaps can't easily do that inside the vis tool.

need a mixer reverb effect or something. eax for xp users, or switch to openal for linux+vista+ users I guess, or write one in software that works in anything.

[revelator]

I´nterresting so we can get the distances from tracelines (allbeit not completely error proof) and i seem to remember a worldtype spawn type from the entity definitions allthough i think its only used to tell the bsp parser to stop parsing gonna have a look.