We got tons of mail on the spam mirv issue.. Check out some 
                  samples:  
                 
                  Since mirv's are an integral part of a demo's arsenal it 
                    doesn't seem plausible to remove it completely. The proposed 
                    solution is simple. Valve must create and implement a timing 
                    script for mirv's. For example, upon releasing the first mirv, 
                    there should be a 5, 7, or even perhaps a 10 second delay 
                    until the next one can be released. The script should be invulnerable 
                    to user scripting, meaning it cannot be changed by any experiened 
                    scripter, as that would be defeating the purpose. I'm sure 
                    the people at Valve can find a way. I believe this idea will 
                    eliminate mirv spam and eventually seperate the talented demo's 
                    from the ping raising, talentless spammers. Hope you post 
                    my solution, maybe Valve might consider it.QW vs. TFC  
                 
                
                   by Andre Dituri  
                
                 
                  The current 2-mirv limit is probably the best way of dealing 
                    with the spam problem (and it WAS a problem) quickly and effectively. 
                    I'm having a LOT more fun playing TFC since the 2-mirv limit 
                    was introduced.  
                 
                 
                   
                     by Mary Chapman 
                  
                
                 
                  To think all this hoopla about something so stupid. The fact 
                    that they eliminated 2 mirvs from the hw and demo class was 
                    agrivating enough. And now what, we have rumor and tfc player 
                    support of a mirvless TFC. What the hell is wrong with people. 
                    That is like saying that the sniper or pyro is useless. If 
                    one class is worthless than they all are. But none are. People 
                    keep complaining about spam, spam this, spam that. People 
                    have the right to throw grenades uselessely and mindlessly 
                    anywhere they want. When did TFC suddenly have ethics, or 
                    war for that matter. Lets not forget the key of tfc, and that 
                    is that tfc is war. Its not about you getting mad because 
                    some guy keeps blowing your dumb ass up because he wont stop 
                    chucking mirvs into your base. Its about being skilled enough 
                    to go out there and frag his ass and not complain. If you 
                    know someone is spamming in a certain locale dont keep going 
                    back there duh. You always see the spam complainers during 
                    games going back over and over only to get blown up by spammers. 
                    Look whiny bitchers, wise up and stop bitching. Spam does 
                    not lag servers, its probably someone with a shitty soundcard 
                    that cant handle all the sound. Eat shit and quit bitching. 
                    Oh and one more thing valve better not remove the rocket jump 
                    or any class either or i swear i quit tfc and ive been playin 
                    for over a year and a half. 
                 
                 
                   
                     by Critical Bill 
                  
                
                 
                  Clankiller's editorial on SPAM was a complete joke. Go figure 
                    a soldier bitching about MIRVS of all things. Anyone with 
                    half a brain knows that the soldier is the Uber-class in TFC, 
                    and that the nail grenade is the spammiest, laggiest weapon 
                    in TFC. It kills people with 56 k modems. Yes, both the demo 
                    AND the soldier are fairly spammy. They can pack quite a punch. 
                    But there is one LARGE difference......the armor. The armor 
                    isa what tunrs the soldier into the Uber-class of TFC. I enjoyed 
                    playing a game of TFC with a buddy the other day. He told 
                    me, " im glad the mirvs are gone. Now there's no more spam", 
                    as he proceeded to toss a nail grenade at a sentry, taking 
                    it out. The he tossed another nail grenade to a room with 
                    2 engies. They got lagged out, and tried to run away. My buddy 
                    the soldier then blasted the engies causing them to fly into 
                    the air. Of course, the spammy fall damage killed them as 
                    soon as they hit the floor. Then, half of the enemies team 
                    ganged up on the my friend, pumping all kinds of lead into 
                    him, like a pack of hunting dogs trying to bring down a grizzly 
                    bear. My friend just kept firing his rockets and tossing his 
                    remaining 4 grenades and 2 nail grenades. Spammy splash damage 
                    knocked off several enemies. And so it went on. You want spam? 
                    Look no further than the ULTIMATE spammer of TFC, the soldier. 
                    Im not advising to mess with the soldier. But in my mind, 
                    the demo and soldier are linked. If you mess with one, you 
                    have to mess with the other. Either put the Demo's mirvs back, 
                    or reduce the soldiers armor or yank the nail grenades. A 
                    soldier vs. a demo is NOT a fair match in the open. it's a 
                    simple as that. For the demo to be yanked of the mirvs is 
                    only allowing the rich to get richer. Those clan players who 
                    deny this are lying. And IF they DON'T deny it, then why would 
                    you agree to weaken a class that is already weaker then the 
                    Uber-soldier to began with? Think about it........... 
                 
                 
                   
                     by Mike 
                  
                
                
                We got tons of mail on the demoman script issue.. Check out some 
                samples: 
                 
                  Well then, lets get rid of all the rest of the scripts then. 
                    Simple as that. It AMAZES me how whenever a class approaches 
                    the level of the Ruling Solider...the TFC community cries 
                    out to Valve.  
                 
                
                   by Mike 
                
                 
                  Hello, I just saw the news on your website about the new 
                    demo script, valve is going to take it out. The original Team 
                    Fortress didn't have a delay on the pipes. Since learning 
                    about that script, it has been heaven, just like the old TF 
                    days. Why is it that any time they change things they make 
                    the demoman weaker? The demoman is supposed to be a close 
                    in fighter. I don't see why the pipes have to be on delay 
                    in the first place. No one complained in TF. This sucks! 
                 
                 
                   
                     by [CwNn] Ikiual  
                  
                
                 
                     
                 
                
              
                 Random Quotes 
              
              
                 by Brian Caauwe 
              
              I know this is more of an HTML question.. but how exactly 
                did you get the random messages on your page, or more to my point, 
                how could I have random pictures on my page? If you could help 
                me out, it would be greatly appreciated 
                (Slick: 
                  Check out Matt's 
                  Script Archive, He's got just what your looking for!) 
                  (NextWish: Also check out CGI-Resources) 
                     
                 
              
                 
                
                  
                    Quake Team Fortress 
                  
                  
                     by Jabberwocky 
                  
                   
                    Does anyone play team fortress for the original 
                      quake any more? If so, where can I find them?  
                    (Slick: 
                      Hehe, I must admit, the question made me laugh when I saw 
                      it. Your best bet is checking the quake servers in gamespy) 
                      (NextWish: Also, you may be interested in the quake TF Frik 
                      bot: it's located here 
                      for offline play.)  
                   
                   
                    
                        
                       
                    
                   
                    
                  
                    
                    TFC  
                  
                
                     by David Shih-Kang Brogden 
                     
                  
                   
                     
                      Hi,  I have a question.  I used to play Team Fortress 
                        back in 1997/1998 when I lived in the dorms  and had 
                        access to the T1.  I recently saw some people playing 
                        TF Classic in the computer labs and  asked them if I 
                        could get a copy of it, but for some reason they gave 
                        me  some bs about needing a CD key or what not.  I 
                        was just wondering how do I play Team Fortress on the 
                        computer.  I remember when I lived in the dorms back 
                        in 1997, that I had to have the  original version of 
                        Quake I and then I had to download Gamespy and then I 
                         had to download all the patches to play Team Fortress. 
                         For this new version of Team Fortress, do I need to 
                        buy a copy  of halflife? and then download a patch for 
                        it that has all the (bsp,  models etc), and then use 
                        Gamespy? The people in the lab were using  won.net or 
                        something, but I went to the page and couldn't find an 
                        answer to  my question. Basically, what do I need to 
                        play TF on this computer? Any  help you can provide would 
                        be great.  David  
                      (DieHard: 
                        You need to buy halflife in order to play online. The 
                        cd-key is on the back of the cd case and only one cd key 
                        can be in use at one time. TFC is included in the following 
                        boxes: Half-life 'Game of the year edition' and Half Life 
                        adrenaline pack (which is the best value to buy). TFC 
                        comes with 4-5 standard maps which are usually played. 
                        There is an in game thingy that will find servers where 
                        you can play on. You can also use gamespy to find a server 
                        too. Here are the system requirements: Minimum System 
                        Requirements Windows� 95, Windows 98 or Windows NT 4.0 
                        Pentium� 133 24 MB RAM 2X CD-ROM drive Mouse and Keyboard 
                        640x480 SVGA high color (16-bit) display Windows-compatible 
                        sound device Recommended System Requirements Pentium� 
                        166+ 32 MB RAM 3D accelerator card (OpenGL or Direct 3D) 
                        )   
                     
                   
                  
                      
                        
                            
                        
                       
                        
                      
                        Hey 
                      
                      
                         by Martin 
                      
                       
                        I'm a Half-Life fan and I think that 
                          TFC2 looks pretty damn cool!! When will it come to Norway? 
                        (Slick: 
                          There's no release dates anywhere, but I'd guess it 
                          wouldn't be too far behind any american release (no 
                          dates have been set). 
                          (NextWish: Martin, it's TF2 not TFC2 ;D ) 
                       
                      
                        
                            
                        
                       
                        
                      
                        April Fools 
                      
                      
                         by Badlamah 
                      
                       
                        you idiots had me completely duped on 
                          that april fools crap, I should've known something wasn't 
                          right when they said communist sweat shops. I submitted 
                          the news to other sites too!  
                        (Slick: 
                          That's Zorak for ya!  
                        Here's 
                          the post for those of you who missed it:  
                        Yesterday, 
                          March 31st, Microsoft finalized it's purchase of Valve 
                          Software. This deal was highly influenced by Gabe Newell, 
                          who used to work at Microsoft. Sierra also pushed the 
                          deal.  
                          Valve has not yet issued a press release, but inside 
                          sources confirm this report. Sierra has released this 
                          information: "We were disappointed 
                          with TF2. It has been delayed countless times, and by 
                          now it is worth more to just give it up than push it 
                          through." Gabe Newell replied with "It is being delayed 
                          on purpose so we can compete with Daikatana."  
                          Valve has said they are excited to integrate Microsoft's 
                          technology into TF2. It is now known that TF2 will ship 
                          with Microsoft Active Directory and Microsoft Active 
                          Desktop built in. TF2 is also rumored to ship with the 
                          upcoming X-Box. We interviewed a familiar man named 
                          Robin Walker about the deal and managed to ask him two 
                          questions:  
                         
                           Planet Fortress:Do 
                            you think this merger will effect the TF2 shipping 
                            date?  
                            Robin:Yes. TF2 will now ship much sooner, since instead 
                            of having the game boxed and shipped from Sierra, 
                            Microsoft will send it to several Communist sweat 
                            shops and get the job done quickly. The game development 
                            time will also be shorter since we are now using Microsoft 
                            Visual Basic 6 as our development language. 
                            Planet Fortress:How will the use of exciting Microsoft 
                            technology be used in TF2?"  
                            Robin:We plan on using the highly loved Active Desktop 
                            to let people read the latest news while playing TF2. 
                            TF2 will also use the Microsoft Hover game that came 
                            on the Windows 95 cd engine instead of a modified 
                            Half-Life engine. This will allow us to use much bigger 
                            enviroments.  
                          The whole deal may sound suspiciously 
                            unreal, but we will keep you updated with every piece 
                            of information we got on this. This looks to be a 
                            very good deal to Valve, since they will now have 
                            access to Microsoft's large resources. The only threat 
                            however remains, Daikatana may be released before 
                            TF2. Stay tuned. ) 
                          (NextWish: 
                            I too was duped by this, well atleast until that I 
                            read it was posted by Zorak. ;D ) 
                         
                           
                        
                        
                       
                        
                      
                        Forums 
                      
                      
                         by Chirs Loverich 
                      
                       
                        Hello. Have you all ever thought about 
                          using the Ultimate Bulletin Board for your forums? I 
                          like it a lot and it seems as if everyone is using it 
                          now, so maybe it is really good. I don't really know, 
                          as long as I can post I dont care, just thought you 
                          all may want to hear my opinion. Thanks. 
                        (Slick: 
                          The forums will change with the redesing (we have not 
                          started that yet, a few other things need to be done 
                          first. ).  
                       
                      
                            
                        
                       
                        
                      
                        Lag and the new patch 
                      
                      
                         by Chris McGuire 
                      
                       
                        Why has everyones ping increased since 
                          the patch was released. All of the servers that i normally 
                          play on were 6-8 green but now they are only 3 red. 
                          I dont think this has got anything to do with my settings 
                          as i have already set the game up as much as possible. 
                         
                        (Slick: 
                          Well, you said not to say it, but it wasn't the patch; 
                          the netcode did not change at all. Your best bet is 
                          a worse connection to your isp.).. 
                           
                       
                      
                        
                            
                        
                       
                        
                      
                        Der Ya'll at PlanetFortress 
                      
                      
                         by Charles Harper 
                      
                       
                        I think my only concern about TFC2 is 
                          that it might end up beeing a on-line version of rainbow 
                          six. Now dont get me wrong, it think TFC needs more 
                          tatics to it but what if they put to much in? it would 
                          lose its log-in and pay appeal, i dont want planning 
                          sesstions before the game, i want to join at any time 
                          and get right into the action with out having to worry 
                          to much about the fact that i missed the pre-game planning 
                          session. 
                        (Slick: 
                          Well, i don't think that'll be a problem, as Valve has 
                          always had good ideas and you can see in our TF2 
                          section that they are trying things constantly to 
                          get what works into the game, and what doesn't, is out.) 
                       
                      
                        
                            
                        
                       
                        
                      
                        TF2 Releasing? 
                      
                      
                         by Colby More 
                      
                       
                        Do you guys think that they have cancelled 
                          TF2? The only reason that I know of that they are having 
                          problems with is the Sound Communications.... I wish 
                          if they would just remove all of that and then release 
                          TF2 now and come out with a free patch that adds the 
                          sound comms originally planned. This is much better 
                          than keeping everyone waiting. You dont know how pissed 
                          Im gonna be if they cancel this game.  
                        (Slick: 
                          If they canceled TF2, we would know, and let me tell 
                          ya; they haven't.).  
                       
                      
                        
                            
                        
                       
                        
                      
                        Polls 
                      
                      
                         by Bradylama 
                      
                       
                        Your polls rule! I love sending you 
                          guys questions. Ya'll should do em'  
                        (Slick: 
                          Glad you like the polls, perhaps i'll even do one this 
                          weekend and get back on schedule! :) ). 
                           
                       
                      
                        
                            
                        
                       
                        
                      
                        
                          
                            
                              Concerning Sentry Guns 
                            
                            
                               by Russ 
                            
                             
                              Hi. I am an engineer by trade. 
                                I work in the Defense and build sentry guns. Recently, 
                                since the latest patch, and even before, I noticed 
                                that scouts and other light classes are not being 
                                killed by my gun. I don't know why. I make them 
                                the same way I always did. This means that the 
                                enemy sensors within the gun, which are produced 
                                under contract from Valve, must be to blame. I've 
                                had a scout run rings around my gun, nailing it 
                                to death while it just bleeps helplessly. It is 
                                a crying shame. Spam is for removing sentry guns. 
                                Let's not remove spam, make dumb gun and let scouts 
                                steal flags while a gun watches. If the gun is 
                                the same and players are just so elite now, then 
                                we need a sentry enemy sensor update from Valve. 
                                After all, what are we paying them for?  
                              (Slick: 
                                Your definitly dedicated.. I don't have any idea 
                                as to the reason for your loss in sentry abilities.. 
                                The most likely cause (since nothing was changed 
                                in the patch) would be your playing on worse severs, 
                                or you connection to your favorites has gone down.. 
                                It's the most likely cause, because latency greatly 
                                effects a sentries ability to pick off intruders). 
                                 
                             
                              
                            
                              Hi 
                            
                            
                              by Chris Loverich
                            
                             
                              This site kicks ass.  
                              (Slick: 
                                Glad to hear you like it! ). 
  
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