The Shub-Hub is doomed

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## The Shub-Hub is doomed

I’ve thought about this for a while and decided not to continue hosting the Shub-Hub. If someone wants to take over, please leave a comment. It’s currently hosted at Dreamhost, no idea if one could transfer it right there (new signups will not be allowed to host such site!). If you kick off Rygel’s stupidly huge texture compilations, traffic will be <100GB month, files are currently http://shub-hub.com/shub-hub_files.txt, http://shub-hub.com/shub-hub_idgames2.txt and a couple others.

The deathmatch maps will be hosted at Quaddicted.com again.
Engines, tools and wads, well, look at the navigation at the left.

Hosting is paid up until mid of January, so this is an early decision and notice.

I just realised it was its second birthday a couple of days ago, poor baby.

Update: Please see http://www.quaddicted.com/?p=270

27.11.2008 in quaddicted.com | 24 Comments »

### 24 Responses to “The Shub-Hub is doomed”

1. Baker Says:
   27.11.2008 17:35

   This is sad to hear.

   Is it the cost?

2. Spirit Says:
   27.11.2008 17:42

   Nope, just a change in my attitude and interests.

3. Trinca Says:
   27.11.2008 17:44

   demos can be upload everywhere :)

   most important thing is “will Quaddicted still alive after january?”

4. RickyT23 Says:
   27.11.2008 17:47

   Bummer. :-(

   Trinca’s right though – I can upload screenshots, demos and maps to bloody mediafire!

   I always took shub-hub for granted. It’s been there since I started mapping!

   Besides – Quaddicted is better than Shub-Hub in so many ways…

5. Baker Says:
   27.11.2008 17:49

   The Shub Hub was a very altruistic creation. It will be sad to see it go.

6. zapp Says:
   27.11.2008 18:23

   Is it possible to get to know what the shubhub costs right now? Would be very interesting to know and would help with deciding if someone can afford to take it over

7. zapp Says:
   27.11.2008 18:48

   Would also be nice if I could get to know the average bandwith/sec it uses as well as how much space all the files on the shub hub take. :)

8. Urre Says:
   27.11.2008 19:38

   If it’s not money, I just don’t get it…

9. scar3crow Says:
   27.11.2008 19:47

   The problem with just uploading things to ‘bloody mediafire’ is bitrot. File dissolution. Will mediafire hold onto those files? Will they be easily searchable or at least basically organized?

   shub-hub, like walnut creek archive provided a ‘place to go’ for the digging, a place where there was a decent chance of finding things.

   If money isn’t the problem, then maintenance probably is. Would you be willing to let some others help manage it? More than one can shoulder a load, and the load is definitely worth bearing. I think Urre here would agree.

10. madfox Says:
    27.11.2008 20:24

    Can someone revieuw this dissicion?
    At least you’re statement for dumpsite reached its limit, but I really sorry the effort we all made to make it go!

    Then just copy the whole site.
    Thanks for your information of the deathline.
    Hard to see a good thing go.

11. Spirit Says:
    27.11.2008 23:47

    Trinca: Quaddicted is all different. Don’t you worry about it. :)

    There are countless free upload sites and I am sure there are some that are no pain in the ass (with no Javascript and cookies). One would just need to find one. After all it is not like every Quake file nowadays is hosted at the Shub-Hub.

    Costs: ~100$ per year at Dreamhost (overselling quantity>quality, very fluctuating service). If you want to provide a good site than you would have to use a good provider. 60$ of this year were covered by donations (thanks to Willem and pleuraXeraphim again). Bandwidth and files are mentioned right in the post.

    The Shub-Hub was NEVER meant as an archive. NEVER ever rely on someone else than yourself when you want files preserved.

    The main reason is simple that the site stresses me just by existing and being “my responsibility”. The actual work is maybe one file move per week.

    As I said, I will not continue it but I would happily pass it to someone else.

12. Baker Says:
    28.11.2008 01:13

    Responsibilities sure do suck.

13. Bad Sector Says:
    30.11.2008 01:36

    Not understood this part:

    ————————-
    It’s currently hosted at Dreamhost, no idea if one could transfer it right there (new signups will not be allowed to host such site!).
    ————————-

    Does it mean that Dreamhost doesn’t want Shub-Hub? Or it does but they changed the rules and new people won’t be able to get Shub-Hub?

    Anyway, i’m interested in taking over the site. $100/year doesn’t sound much to me.

    (and i would leave Rygel’s pack alone, it rocks :-)

    Btw, i had the impression that Dreamhost is a good provider…

14. RickyT23 Says:
    30.11.2008 03:07

    Bad Sector:

    Check out “screenshots and betas” thread of http://www.celephais.net/board/forum.php – you will see that Willem (love this guy) has stepped up to the plate! Although I really appreciate the sentiment.

    But I am in agreement with you about Rygels texture pack – it’s awesome. It would be nice to think that it will remain hosted at some location or other.

15. Spirit Says:
    30.11.2008 10:56

    Dreamhost changed their TOS to disallow “download sites” on their new “unlimited” plan. And that plan seems the only option for new customers.

    Yes, Willem made a replacement. He did not answer me yet if he will continue the shub-hub.com domain and files though. That’s what I am interested in for someone to “take over”. There are actually a few people who said they might, I am just waiting for Willem to reply…

16. Bad Sector Says:
    30.11.2008 20:51

    Well if Willen gets the files i think his replacement is good (i liked the thumbnails in shots for instance) :-).

17. Spirit Says:
    30.11.2008 22:55

    Yes, he will. All is good. ;-)

18. dEus Says:
    01.12.2008 20:58

    some good news

19. John Says:
    20.04.2011 10:32

    Ill take over the shubhub

20. John Says:
    20.04.2011 10:35

    Any way you can send me the software necessary to run it?

21. Spirit Says:
    20.04.2011 12:11

    Hey John, thanks for the offer. You are much too late though, about 2 and 1/2 years. :-)

    Willem took over the files in 2008 and hosts a similar site at http://www.quaketastic.com/

22. John Says:
    20.04.2011 12:15

    Well, I have some webspace I can donate if need be.

23. frag Says:
    22.04.2011 18:44

    2 Spirit
    Firstly, thank you for shub-hub.com and quaddicted.com. ‘-))
    Secondly, quaketastic.com is the full mirror of shub-hub or not?

24. Spirit Says:
    22.04.2011 20:31

    Thanks for your kind words!

    It is not ALL the files but the vast majority. I am hosting the engines and wads at Quaddicted since then (I think), not sure what else. Some movies were removed earlier I think. Willem did not re-new the shub-hub.com domain I think. Earlier it was transparently(?) redirecting URLs.

    How come people are so interested in this now?

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