Classic Game Postmortem, Tom Hall and John Romero talk about Doom

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## Classic Game Postmortem, Tom Hall and John Romero talk about Doom

Maybe you saw it earlier, maybe you just saw snippets. If you are interested in Doom, I highly recommend the Postmortem Hall and Romero did at GDC 2011.
You can watch it with Flash at http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1014627/Classic-Game-Postmortem

But if you are cool like me, you download it with rtmpdump instead (careful, stupid WordPress changed normal quotes to something fancy and two dashes to a long dash, stupid piece of crap):

> rtmpdump –rtmp “rtmp://fms.digitallyspeaking.com:1935/cfx/st/ondemand?ovpfv=1.1″ –playpath “video/gdc/sf11/12391_1299192356062UTTA_video” -swfUrl “http://events.digitallyspeaking.com/gdc/sf11/GDC2011SanFranciso.swf” –pageUrl “http://events.digitallyspeaking.com/gdc/sf11/player.html?xmlURL=xml/12391_1299192356062UTTA.xml&token=3c6c000ab0766078310c” –flv video.flv

> rtmpdump –rtmp “rtmp://fms.digitallyspeaking.com:1935/cfx/st/ondemand?ovpfv=1.1″ –playpath “video/gdc/sf11/12391_1299192356062UTTA_slides” -swfUrl “http://events.digitallyspeaking.com/gdc/sf11/GDC2011SanFranciso.swf” –pageUrl “http://events.digitallyspeaking.com/gdc/sf11/player.html?xmlURL=xml/12391_1299192356062UTTA.xml&token=3c6c000ab0766078310c” –flv slides.flv

It’s 90 megabytes for the talk and 150 for the slides. Enjoy!

17.04.2011 in Quake Nostalgia | 10 Comments »

### 10 Responses to “Classic Game Postmortem, Tom Hall and John Romero talk about Doom”

1. Baker Says:
   19.04.2011 05:05

   Watched the video. All I can say this that Spirit has a really good sense of history in a way that matters in a read “between the lines” kind of way.

   Sure, the depth of the above comment will be lost on many but I get Spirit’s appreciation of project flow, design and intent.

   At times, I wonder what id Software would have done if Romero didn’t leave. Clearly, DooM and Quake had “deep thought” into the design that is not so obvious at first glance.

   Recently after stripping Quake bare and rebuilding it, I’ve had a few “Ah ha!” moments.

2. volcane Says:
   24.04.2011 12:29

   Sorry for being a noob but I’m struggling to get the rtmpdump commands above to work. I’m using Windows Vista and I’ve downloaded a Win32 version of rtmpdump (which seems to work OK) but I’m getting a variety of errors when I try to use the commands/parameters above.

   I don’t suppose that anyone has a copy of the video+slides already downloaded that I could download from them?

   Alternatively, can any point me towards a Win32 build of rmtpdump and the associated commands that would help me download the Flash content above?

   TIA!

3. Spirit Says:
   24.04.2011 16:27

   Sorry, this abomination of a blog software is to blame. Stupid stupid wordpress. I hate this crap. It is long overdue I ditch it.

   It turned — into something fancy and altered the normal doublequotes too.

   I made a torrent: http://www.quaddicted.com/temp/GDC%20Vault%20-%20Classic-Game-Postmortem,%20Tom%20Hall%20and%20John%20Romero%20(2011).torrent

4. Spirit Says:
   24.04.2011 16:27

   GAAAAAAAAAAAAH! The — above is two simple dashes. Screw this.

5. Ron Says:
   27.04.2011 17:44

   Thanks for the link !
   Really nice to watch, it makes you appreciate the game even more when you see how much work went into making it.

   It’s a shame not everybody that plays 3d games nowadays realizes the importance of DooM and the great work done by Carmack and the ID software team.

6. goddogx Says:
   28.04.2011 00:29

   it cannot be overemphasized that iD was the well from which all shooters drink! jc and the rest practically invented/transformed nearly every tenet of gameplay, both graphically and soundwise. it was such a shame to watch them fritter away that leadership with poor personnel moves (i.e. steed, mcgee, etc.) and internal strife (carmack vs. carmack on doom 3). the still vibrant wolf, doom and quake communities 15 years on are the proof. play much mario or sonic or ff lately :)

7. Ron Says:
   29.04.2011 15:11

   I found a documentary (sort of) about ID software on Youtube.
   Here’s the link to the 1st episode:

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YreEwtV7D0

   From there you can find the others.

   It’s a very American program, heavy on the drama and all that, be warned !

8. Ron Says:
   29.04.2011 15:13

   PS If I was as cool as Spirit, my hard drive would have been full years ago …
   Hooray for streaming !
   ;)

9. Spirit Says:
   29.04.2011 16:09

   The Quake episode of that made me want to beat my head into my desk because it was completely awful and idiotic. So I did not bother watching the others.

10. Ron Says:
    30.04.2011 06:55

    You are right.
    I watched it again and it is crap.
    Sorry.

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