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Also, a useful tip is to _use_ the enemy resupply rooms. Its really easy 
      in 2fort4 since the upper supply room stays open for so long. And in 2fort5 
      you can either follow someone out, or hang out by the exit and run in just 
      as someone else runs out. You have to be careful on 2fort5 tho, since the 
      doors will sometimes close on you... and do too much damage.  
      Submitted by Toxy  
   
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If a sentry gun can see you, and you feign, it will keep shooting and missing 
      you. So if you're out of grenades and there's nobody around, you can whip 
      out the double barrel, shoot the sentry, feign, change colors, un-feign, 
      and repeat the process. Just be sure you don't do it right in front of a 
      wall, because you'll take radius damage from exploding rockets. Good in 
      2fort4 to keep engineers away from sentries that they put right next to 
      the flag. Just feign and it will keep shooting, nailing anybody who goes 
      down the corridor (usually the engineer who built the gun). 
      Submitted by Toxy  
   
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If your playing tf on the map Unholy Kingdoms by Dyermaker a good tip is 
      to go to the enemy sniper tower disguised as an engineer. If theres a sniper 
      when you first get up there ( very unlikely ) , feed him a few ludes while 
      strafing then knife him in the back or on top of him. Then stay up there 
      for a while. The hole when you look down on the lower sniper deck, count 
      to 2 slowly then chuck a grenade into the entrance to make ppl dizzy as 
      they go out. Then if there are any sentries around do the same as above 
      but with regular grenades. Any snipers shoot them in the head with a lude 
      then with your nailgun or Mac10 shoot his head a bunch of times and then 
      he'll go "WTF!?!?!", now all you do is shoot ppl with lueds as they walk 
      out of the base. It's fun but some ppl might call ya campers :)  
      Submitted by Tassadar[OS]   
   
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In Well6, make your way up to the room of the enemy fort (or yours if it's 
      being completely overrun). You'll find the area with backpacks and a hole 
      in the roof. This is the most evil thing you can possible do to your enemies. 
      Grab all four packs and then drop 4 gas bombs on different parts of the 
      lobby below. Then repeat. When they start getting the idea and come up after 
      you, feign and wait for them to pass. Then do it again. Even if it doesn't 
      skyrocket your frag count, it'll drive the enemies out of their lobby. On 
      a no-friendly-fire game, you can have your allies attack as well. It'll 
      screw up their vision, but just so they shoot everything they see, it isn't 
      a problem.Eventually, they'll drive you out. So pay them back by becoming 
      a scout and running in while they're out counter attacking youOf course, 
      on Friendly fire games, this technique isn't that productive. However, it 
      is nice to always gas the doors leading to the respawns.  
      Submitted by Sir Ed Die 
   
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What do you call a spy who's been caught off guard? Dead, unless you can 
      think fast. Most TFC servers have footsteps enabled, so turn your volume 
      up to max and be listening for someone coming up behind. If you here a shotgun 
      being reloaded, get away, but don't act like you're running for your life. 
      Head towards the area where someone of your class should be. And if footsteps 
      aren't enabled, then remember to keep a constant check on your surroundings. 
      Don't stand still and face the door of your oponents spawn room, put your 
      back to the wall and watch. Never let the other guy see your back, unless 
      he's a corpse.  
      Submitted by  
      E.Novak  
   
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I've noticed a LOT of spies on both sides go charging off the sniper deck 
      (2fort) and into the enemy base while disguising. That is a very bad idea. 
      If the enemy sees a spy coming in they will all go around shooting each 
      other, while this proves helpful it also tends to get you blown up. So what 
      you do is disguise BEFORE you go charging into the enemy base, and I mean 
      change your skin not your color, a red running back into the red base tends 
      to be shot. 
      Never, and I mean NEVER go in as a class the enemy only has one of. I was 
      being a HW once, and the enemy spy ran right up to me and it showed my name, 
      which is a dead giveaway that the player is a spy. Also it's best to pick 
      a skin of the enemy team that's on defense. 
      Submitted by  
      Shadow 
   
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When you have to do battle with a hwguy, while running at him and strafing 
      from side to side, try to tranq him once (this is not always neccessary, 
      but does make it easier to sink you're knife in his back). Then get right 
      in his face, and switch immediatly to the knife. While he's wondering what's 
      going on and using up alot of ammo, try to "strafe" around him to his backside, 
      and swing that knife into him. He usually can't get more than a few shells 
      into you, and you'll be taking chunks out of his back in the meantime. The 
      key to this technique is to wait 'till you're behind him to sink the knife 
      - takes no more than two strikes to kill him, and usually only one. Using 
      this method, I can easily kill most hwguys, and take very little damage 
      in the process. 
      Submitted by  
      Dream Machine 
   
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I've noticed a LOT of spys on both sides go charging off the sniper deck 
      (2fort) and into the enemy base while disguising. That is a very bad idea. 
      If the enemy sees a spy coming in they will all go around shooting eachother, 
      while this proves helpful it also tends to get you blown up. So what you 
      do is disguise BEFORE you go charging into the enemy base, and I mean change 
      your skin not your color, a red running back into the red base tends to 
      be shot. and tip #2 never and I mean NEVER go in as a class the enemy only 
      has one of, I was being a HW once, the spy ran right up to me and it showed 
      my name, which is a dead giveaway that the player is a spy. Also it's best 
      to pic a skin of the enemy team thats on defence, I was attacking a spy 
      and noticed his health drop to -182. 
      Submitted by �H���W  
   
  - For all you newer spies out there, heres a tip on avoidance of getting killed 
    once your found out. Most of the time spies that have been found out normally 
    resort to what they instinctivly do when in trouble. They fight. In deathmatch 
    what do you do when someone shoots you? You go and kill them right? However 
    in TFC you have more to take into consideration than savagery. Speed, Armor, 
    Weaponry are all things to take into consideration. Lets look at two examples. 
    Ok, say your a scout (just bear with me) and a HWG walks around the corner...do 
    you try and fight him? No. A good scout would get the hell out of there utilizing 
    his speed. The HWguy is slow and powerful and the scout is fast and weak. 
    Now the spy is hardly any stronger than the scout and fighting an HWG in a 
    gun to gun fight is sheer idiocy right? Then why the hell do I see people 
    ALWAYS doing it? Now this leads to the actual tip. Using speed and maneuvereability(spellings 
    bad -- I am on vacation) is a KEY to keeping your ass from looking like a 
    fresh block of swiss cheese. Take a map such as the well. This map is full 
    of oportunities for taking advantage of your mobility in comparison to autocannon 
    toting rocket launching fragapheliacs with body armor -- from hell. Say your 
    caught just outside the door to the enemy base. Open the door and run in but 
    do not run away when he comes in after you run back out...backwards - Jump 
    into the water...backwards - Swim under the bridge...backwards and then flip 
    180 and jump out of the water. Head back the direction you swam but on land. 
    Jump back in the water. Hop out right behind the SOB from hell and run past 
    him up the ladder. He will usually go under the ladder and give you an Enima 
    - but with bullets or give you a complimentary ride to mars on a brand new 
    S.O.L Rocket. So instead jump away from the ladder and grasp back on aft! 
    er the rocket or bullet goes up. If you think your good prime a grenade so 
    you can jump down drop it on his feet and run. Its impossible -- but doable 
    :) This is just on of a million things you can do to save your ass. The point 
    of it is to keep the enemy chasing and confused to the point where he falls 
    so far behind that its not worth it. Its kind of like those math things you 
    learned in Jr. High; If one train is moving 90 mph and the other at 50. In 
    one minute how far will each train go? Same thing applies. Make him chase 
    until hes out of range. If you were to say just run away and go through the 
    barracade in the middle of the map. He could just send 4 rockets towards the 
    door your heading for and its all over. However if he has no idea what your 
    doing .. and you do (important -- some people actually dont!) you have the 
    upper hand. 
 
    Submitted by  
    Hells 'lil' Angel 
     
     
  - Just a revenge tactic. Every spy -hates- that cocky engineer who is always 
    detecting you and standing on your corpse when you are feigning, leisurely 
    taking his time, hitting you with his wrench now and again, and taking many 
    minutes to finish you off. Some engineers (and other classes) love to do this... 
    I've had engineers stand on me for more than five minutes at times. What can 
    you do once he gets on top of you? Well, not much... but if you know that 
    this engineer does this often, I have a little revenge ploy to help you guys. 
    "Bait" the engineer by running conspicuously into his view and wait for him 
    to ID you. When he does and starts giving chase, firing, prime a grenade and 
    then, right in front of his eyes, feign death while STILL HOLDING ONTO THE 
    GRENADE. In TFC, you will not drop the grenade but continue holding it even 
    when you are feigning. Cocky engie will then proceed to step on top of you 
    and do his usual bit... and when the grenade you are holding explodes, will 
    promptly be blown to smithereens! :) Sure, it kills you too, but this can 
    actually help you... do this to one of these obnoxious opponents a few times 
    and they start getting wary of pulling that "stand on you" trick. Every little 
    bit helps.
 
    Submitted by  
    DrCrypt  
     
   
  - An TFC 2fort tip, and this one is going to be so stupid that you are going 
    to wonder how it works. The typical deal with a spy is that you get into the 
    enemy basement, steal the flag, and begin to run up the enemy spiral. Of course, 
    waiting for yoiu at the top is a demo man/hwguy/soldier, etc. who has heard 
    the "The enemy team has stolen your flag" warning begins shooting you into 
    oblivion on sight. Want to know how you can get past this guy? Simple, although 
    not infallible. Run up to the top of the spiral and see if there is anyone 
    waiting for you. If there is, quickly run back down to the bottom of the spiral. 
    At the bottom of the spiral, just after you pass through the doorway to the 
    basement, quickly turn right to hide in the corner right next to the doorway. 
    Keep in mind that this is the corner that is FARTHEST AWAY FROM the flagroom 
    and is a "blind spot" for enemies who are running through the doorway chasing 
    you. Now duck and wait. More often than not, whoever follows you down (and 
    they will... TFC players, once they see you are a spy, will figure you an 
    easy kill) will think that you headed in the direction of the flag room or 
    the elevator shaft to hide and pass -right by you-. All the while you are 
    holding the flag! I know this sounds stupid, but it works time and time again. 
    Just don't do it too much. Like any spy trick, enemies catch on.
 
    Submitted by  
    DrCrypt  
 
 
        
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